| 35th Royal Selangor International Open Chess Tournament 2008 | ||||||||
| MCF Rating statistics | ||||||||
| No. | Name | FED | Rat | Eval.Pts. | Eval.Gam. | Nrat-Ø | Rtg+/- | |
| 1 | FM | Lim Yee-Weng | MAS | 2123 | 7½ | 8 | 1913 | 30.2 |
| 2 | Lim Chuin Hoong Ronnie | MAS | 2157 | 7 | 9 | 1909 | 0.9 | |
| 3 | FM | Chan Nicholas | MAS | 2140 | 7 | 9 | 1959 | 13.2 |
| 4 | Che Hassan Abdullah | MAS | 1927 | 6½ | 9 | 1818 | 18.9 | |
| 5 | Wahiduddin Kamalarifin | MAS | 1770 | 6 | 9 | 1834 | 53.9 | |
| 6 | FM | Tedy Sukirman ** | INA | 2254 | 6 | 9 | 1866 | -87.4 |
| 7 | Ong Way Justin | MAS | 1762 | 6 | 9 | 1891 | 89.9 | |
| 8 | Yeoh Chin Seng | MAS | 1772 | 6 | 9 | 1759 | 35.3 | |
| 9 | Abdul Shukor Abdul Aziz | MAS | 1663 | 6 | 9 | 1774 | 80.0 | |
| 10 | Abdullah Mohd Kamal | MAS | 2019 | 5½ | 9 | 1758 | -28.8 | |
| 11 | Jamal’s Hendry | INA | 2218 | 5½ | 9 | 1760 | -36.9 | |
| 12 | Bakri Alia Anin Azwa | MAS | 1669 | 5½ | 9 | 1790 | 67.7 | |
| 13 | Yeoh Phee Leong Marcus | MAS | 1634 | 5½ | 9 | 1810 | 77.3 | |
| 14 | Ahmad Ismail | MAS | 1715 | 5½ | 9 | 1730 | 32.1 | |
| 15 | Yusof Kamaluddin | MAS | 1954 | 5½ | 9 | 1815 | -8.2 | |
| 16 | Pereira Johnharry | SIN | 1677 | 5½ | 9 | 1703 | 48.4 | |
| 17 | Udani Ian | PHI | 2017 | 5 | 9 | 1993 | 5.7 | |
| 18 | WIM | Lumongdong Lisa Karlina | INA | 2065 | 5 | 9 | 1834 | -29.1 |
| 19 | Lindiawati Evi | INA | 2029 | 5 | 9 | 1890 | -14.7 | |
| 20 | Khandhar Kaushal | MAS | 1773 | 5 | 9 | 1907 | 46.1 | |
| 21 | Shaikh Ali Nor Ilhamuddin | MAS | 1804 | 5 | 9 | 1900 | 40.5 | |
| 22 | WIM | Tamin Upi Darmayana | INA | 2134 | 5 | 9 | 1684 | -55.0 |
| 23 | Leong Mun Wan | MAS | 1955 | 5 | 8 | 1724 | -25.3 | |
| 24 | Tan Ken Wei | MAS | 1843 | 5 | 9 | 1674 | -26.4 | |
| 25 | Morsin Ahmad | MAS | 1740 | 5 | 9 | 1703 | 1.7 | |
| 26 | Yeoh Li Tian | MAS | 1611 | 5 | 9 | 1717 | 44.5 | |
| 27 | Manikam Ralvin | MAS | 1586 | 5 | 9 | 1728 | 61.5 | |
| 28 | Lim Kian Hwa | MAS | 1723 | 5 | 9 | 1648 | -11.2 | |
| 29 | Tham Tick Hong Jax | MAS | 1779 | 4½ | 9 | 1732 | -16.3 | |
| 30 | Ilias Mohd Safri | MAS | 1638 | 4½ | 9 | 1666 | 11.2 | |
| 31 | Wahiduddin Khairunnisa | MAS | 1672 | 4½ | 9 | 1664 | -8.7 | |
| 32 | Trenseno Felica * | INA | 1550 | 4½ | 9 | 1616 | 38.6 | |
| 33 | Mat Daud Zullkafli | MAS | 1550 | 4½ | 8 | 1586 | 30.1 | |
| 34 | Zullkafli Nur Shazwani | MAS | 1762 | 4 | 9 | 1789 | -6.2 | |
| 35 | Erowan Masrin | MAS | 1810 | 4 | 9 | 1727 | -39.9 | |
| 36 | Marmono Roslina | MAS | 1702 | 4 | 9 | 1736 | -6.9 | |
| 37 | Sabri Mohd Saprin | MAS | 1912 | 4 | 9 | 1723 | -59.3 | |
| 38 | Lim Zhuo Ren | MAS | 1876 | 4 | 9 | 1666 | -55.7 | |
| 39 | Omar Muhd Firdaus | MAS | 1525 | 4 | 9 | 1638 | 27.4 | |
| 40 | Ismail Norazman | MAS | 1754 | 4 | 9 | 1752 | -8.9 | |
| 41 | Mohd Noor Ahmad Eizran Ezra | MAS | 1647 | 4 | 9 | 1656 | -8.9 | |
| 42 | Demudu Subramaniam | MAS | 1509 | 4 | 9 | 1544 | -7.2 | |
| 43 | Yeop Mat Zaki | MAS | 1509 | 4 | 9 | 1652 | 27.9 | |
| 44 | Ng Kiang Wei | MAS | 1597 | 4 | 9 | 1530 | -35.4 | |
| 45 | S. Balendran | MAS | 1528 | 4 | 9 | 1654 | 14.0 | |
| 46 | Ruslan Haslindah | MAS | 1510 | 4 | 8 | 1583 | 17.9 | |
| 47 | Saleh Fikri | MAS | 1460 | 4 | 9 | 1446 | -16.6 | |
| 48 | Abd Rahman Syazrin | MAS | 1549 | 3½ | 9 | 1630 | -12.7 | |
| 49 | Shafiq Abd Rauf Wan Mohd Arif | MAS | 1589 | 3½ | 9 | 1679 | -3.3 | |
| 50 | Narayanasamy N. Annadurai * | MAS | 1550 | 3½ | 9 | 1579 | -41.08 | |
| 51 | Ee Sun-Xin | MAS | 1212 | 3½ | 9 | 1586 | 118.7 | |
| 52 | Abu Bakar Mohd Syahir | MAS | 1464 | 3½ | 9 | 1477 | -17.6 | |
| 53 | Ooi Boon Seng Andrew | MAS | 1527 | 3 | 9 | 1569 | -32.6 | |
| 54 | Tan Yong Zhao | MAS | 1329 | 3 | 9 | 1462 | -9.9 | |
| 55 | Yahaya Muhd Nur Islam | MAS | 1128 | 3 | 9 | 1435 | 56.1 | |
| 56 | Azrin Aminur Nirza | MAS | 1143 | 2½ | 9 | 1380 | 27.6 | |
| 57 | Poon Guo Liong Derek | MAS | 1383 | 2½ | 9 | 1456 | -47.6 | |
| 58 | Ahmad Yahaya * | MAS | 1550 | 2½ | 9 | 1297 | -203.7 | |
| 59 | Aminuddin Nur Faqihah | MAS | 1292 | 2½ | 9 | 1294 | -90.7 | |
| 60 | Saleh Anis Fariha | MAS | 887 | 1½ | 8 | 1345 | -5.8 | |
| 61 | Abdul Latif Saleh | MAS | 902 | 2 | 9 | 1385 | 39.6 | |
| 62 | Viajantheran Viknesh | MAS | 1143 | 1 | 8 | 1274 | -65.1 | |
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Malaysian : 05 May 2008 at 8:19 pm
Looking at the national rating list, there seems to be many anomalies in the ratings of some of the strongest Malaysian players relative to some benchmark players.
If we were to accept LYW, RL and NC to be at the top of the heap and rated in the 1900s, going down the list we immediately see Yeoh Chin Seng at 1759, Kamal at 1758, Ismail Ahmad at 1730, Leong Mun Wan at 1724, Lim Kian Hwa at 1648, Jax Tham at 1732, Saprin at 1723 eg. to be grossly under-rated. What happens is when these players take part in tournaments they will pull down the performances of their opponents by virtue of their unrealistic ratings.
Can the rating authority take action to rectify the problem to present a more balanced rating list?
man : 07 May 2008 at 9:44 am
It shows that you haven’t been to any tourney for so long that you can’t even read a table properly.FYI the actual rating is listed next to the Federation, while the one you are referring to is the average opponent’s rating.
Of course there will be some initial discrepancy eg. look at Tedy Sukirman, since this is the first time he’s playing in Malaysia, his FIDE rating is used as his Malaysian rating; but this will be corrected over time.
GilaChess : 09 May 2008 at 8:33 pm
I’ve been to so many tournaments and I don’t even know that!!
Malaysian : 09 May 2008 at 9:51 pm
This is a perfect example of unconstructive posting on the net. You should address the rating discrepancy instead of narrow minded personal verbal attack on me for not crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s.
Don’t you realise that makes the situation even worse than I thought.Now LYW, RL and NC are at 2100+, K Wahiduddin at 1770, J Ong at 1762, YCS at 1772, Ahmad Ismail( World Police Champion)at 1715, Marcus Yeo at 1634 and many others as well are so under-rated. They are some 300-400 points off and I am certain there is no such chasm betweem them and the top 3.
Malaysian : 09 May 2008 at 10:22 pm
A national rating list which makes no attempt to reconcile the obvious existing rating discrepancies is of doubtful value to the promotion of healthy chess development.
GilaChess : 09 May 2008 at 11:57 pm
I’ve heard Tse Pin say before that the National rating list is 200-300 points below the actual ELO rating.
Malaysian : 10 May 2008 at 12:07 am
It is not so much about how many points eg LYW’s national rating is compared to Fide’s. It is about how many national rating points he is above eg Ismail Ahmad, an unbelievable 408!!!!! With that difference LYW is expected to wipe the floor with IA theoretically, but we all know that cannot be the case in reality. Do you agree?