Selangor Open: National Rating details

Posted by GilaChess

May 5, 2008

35th Royal Selangor International Open Chess Tournament 2008

MCF Rating statistics

No.		Name	FED	Rat	Eval.Pts.	Eval.Gam.	Nrat-Ø	Rtg+/-
1	FM	Lim Yee-Weng	MAS	2123	7½	8	1913	30.2
2		Lim Chuin Hoong Ronnie	MAS	2157	7	9	1909	0.9
3	FM	Chan Nicholas	MAS	2140	7	9	1959	13.2
4		Che Hassan Abdullah	MAS	1927	6½	9	1818	18.9
5		Wahiduddin Kamalarifin	MAS	1770	6	9	1834	53.9
6	FM	Tedy Sukirman **	INA	2254	6	9	1866	-87.4
7		Ong Way Justin	MAS	1762	6	9	1891	89.9
8		Yeoh Chin Seng	MAS	1772	6	9	1759	35.3
9		Abdul Shukor Abdul Aziz	MAS	1663	6	9	1774	80.0
10		Abdullah Mohd Kamal	MAS	2019	5½	9	1758	-28.8
11		Jamal’s Hendry	INA	2218	5½	9	1760	-36.9
12		Bakri Alia Anin Azwa	MAS	1669	5½	9	1790	67.7
13		Yeoh Phee Leong Marcus	MAS	1634	5½	9	1810	77.3
14		Ahmad Ismail	MAS	1715	5½	9	1730	32.1
15		Yusof Kamaluddin	MAS	1954	5½	9	1815	-8.2
16		Pereira Johnharry	SIN	1677	5½	9	1703	48.4
17		Udani Ian	PHI	2017	5	9	1993	5.7
18	WIM	Lumongdong Lisa Karlina	INA	2065	5	9	1834	-29.1
19		Lindiawati Evi	INA	2029	5	9	1890	-14.7
20		Khandhar Kaushal	MAS	1773	5	9	1907	46.1
21		Shaikh Ali Nor Ilhamuddin	MAS	1804	5	9	1900	40.5
22	WIM	Tamin Upi Darmayana	INA	2134	5	9	1684	-55.0
23		Leong Mun Wan	MAS	1955	5	8	1724	-25.3
24		Tan Ken Wei	MAS	1843	5	9	1674	-26.4
25		Morsin Ahmad	MAS	1740	5	9	1703	1.7
26		Yeoh Li Tian	MAS	1611	5	9	1717	44.5
27		Manikam Ralvin	MAS	1586	5	9	1728	61.5
28		Lim Kian Hwa	MAS	1723	5	9	1648	-11.2
29		Tham Tick Hong Jax	MAS	1779	4½	9	1732	-16.3
30		Ilias Mohd Safri	MAS	1638	4½	9	1666	11.2
31		Wahiduddin Khairunnisa	MAS	1672	4½	9	1664	-8.7
32		Trenseno Felica *	INA	1550	4½	9	1616	38.6
33		Mat Daud Zullkafli	MAS	1550	4½	8	1586	30.1
34		Zullkafli Nur Shazwani	MAS	1762	4	9	1789	-6.2
35		Erowan Masrin	MAS	1810	4	9	1727	-39.9
36		Marmono Roslina	MAS	1702	4	9	1736	-6.9
37		Sabri Mohd Saprin	MAS	1912	4	9	1723	-59.3
38		Lim Zhuo Ren	MAS	1876	4	9	1666	-55.7
39		Omar Muhd Firdaus	MAS	1525	4	9	1638	27.4
40		Ismail Norazman	MAS	1754	4	9	1752	-8.9
41		Mohd Noor Ahmad Eizran Ezra	MAS	1647	4	9	1656	-8.9
42		Demudu Subramaniam	MAS	1509	4	9	1544	-7.2
43		Yeop Mat Zaki	MAS	1509	4	9	1652	27.9
44		Ng Kiang Wei	MAS	1597	4	9	1530	-35.4
45		S. Balendran	MAS	1528	4	9	1654	14.0
46		Ruslan Haslindah	MAS	1510	4	8	1583	17.9
47		Saleh Fikri	MAS	1460	4	9	1446	-16.6
48		Abd Rahman Syazrin	MAS	1549	3½	9	1630	-12.7
49		Shafiq Abd Rauf Wan Mohd Arif	MAS	1589	3½	9	1679	-3.3
50		Narayanasamy N. Annadurai *	MAS	1550	3½	9	1579	-41.08
51		Ee Sun-Xin	MAS	1212	3½	9	1586	118.7
52		Abu Bakar Mohd Syahir	MAS	1464	3½	9	1477	-17.6
53		Ooi Boon Seng Andrew	MAS	1527	3	9	1569	-32.6
54		Tan Yong Zhao	MAS	1329	3	9	1462	-9.9
55		Yahaya Muhd Nur Islam	MAS	1128	3	9	1435	56.1
56		Azrin Aminur Nirza	MAS	1143	2½	9	1380	27.6
57		Poon Guo Liong Derek	MAS	1383	2½	9	1456	-47.6
58		Ahmad Yahaya *	MAS	1550	2½	9	1297	-203.7
59		Aminuddin Nur Faqihah	MAS	1292	2½	9	1294	-90.7
60		Saleh Anis Fariha	MAS	887	1½	8	1345	-5.8
61		Abdul Latif Saleh	MAS	902	2	9	1385	39.6
62		Viajantheran Viknesh	MAS	1143	1	8	1274	-65.1

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Comments

Looking at the national rating list, there seems to be many anomalies in the ratings of some of the strongest Malaysian players relative to some benchmark players.

If we were to accept LYW, RL and NC to be at the top of the heap and rated in the 1900s, going down the list we immediately see Yeoh Chin Seng at 1759, Kamal at 1758, Ismail Ahmad at 1730, Leong Mun Wan at 1724, Lim Kian Hwa at 1648, Jax Tham at 1732, Saprin at 1723 eg. to be grossly under-rated. What happens is when these players take part in tournaments they will pull down the performances of their opponents by virtue of their unrealistic ratings.

Can the rating authority take action to rectify the problem to present a more balanced rating list?

Comment by Malaysian on May 5, 2008 @ 8:19 pm

It shows that you haven’t been to any tourney for so long that you can’t even read a table properly.FYI the actual rating is listed next to the Federation, while the one you are referring to is the average opponent’s rating.

Of course there will be some initial discrepancy eg. look at Tedy Sukirman, since this is the first time he’s playing in Malaysia, his FIDE rating is used as his Malaysian rating; but this will be corrected over time.

Comment by man on May 7, 2008 @ 9:44 am

I’ve been to so many tournaments and I don’t even know that!!

Comment by GilaChess on May 9, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

This is a perfect example of unconstructive posting on the net. You should address the rating discrepancy instead of narrow minded personal verbal attack on me for not crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s.

Don’t you realise that makes the situation even worse than I thought.Now LYW, RL and NC are at 2100+, K Wahiduddin at 1770, J Ong at 1762, YCS at 1772, Ahmad Ismail( World Police Champion)at 1715, Marcus Yeo at 1634 and many others as well are so under-rated. They are some 300-400 points off and I am certain there is no such chasm betweem them and the top 3.

Comment by Malaysian on May 9, 2008 @ 9:51 pm

A national rating list which makes no attempt to reconcile the obvious existing rating discrepancies is of doubtful value to the promotion of healthy chess development.

Comment by Malaysian on May 9, 2008 @ 10:22 pm

I’ve heard Tse Pin say before that the National rating list is 200-300 points below the actual ELO rating.

Comment by GilaChess on May 9, 2008 @ 11:57 pm

It is not so much about how many points eg LYW’s national rating is compared to Fide’s. It is about how many national rating points he is above eg Ismail Ahmad, an unbelievable 408!!!!! With that difference LYW is expected to wipe the floor with IA theoretically, but we all know that cannot be the case in reality. Do you agree?

Comment by Malaysian on May 10, 2008 @ 12:07 am